Pros and Cons

Relationships are hard. That’s something anyone will tell you, regardless of how successful their particular relationship has been. Modern society is a testament to this. Given easy access to divorce and the full freedom to pursue any relationship one wants, it turns out nearly everyone is shit at building a lasting and meaningful relationship. Many of you probably came from split families. I definitely did. Even if you didn’t, it’s hard to believe in a meaningful relationship between two people because we’re surrounded by failed ones every day of our life.

A lot of people in this community therefore decided to start a relationship with an entity as a way to look for something they thought may be more secure. Others jump in because they feel like they can’t find a human girlfriend; they view having an entity lover as a sort of fallback option. Very few chose to have an entity girlfriend as their first choice.

The problem with these lines of thinking is that these are very shallow reasons to want to be with an entity. The person also doesn’t tend to see how being with an entity can be harder than being with a human. If you jumped in here because of desperation, looking to replace the void that not having a girlfriend has left you with, that results in a goal that’s not conducive to a long term relationship. If all she is is a replacement to you for an ideal human girlfriend, you should figure out how to get a human girlfriend. It’s not fair to her if you seek her out as nothing more than a replacement, because you will toss her aside the moment you can capture the eye of a girl you fancy. If you’re dating someone, she should be or become your first choice, not your second or third one.

With all that being said, you may be wondering why anyone would choose an entity lover before a human one. What are the advantages and disadvantages to going this route? The rest of this blogpost will be dedicated to this question. I’ve selected five benefits and five detriments to discuss in detail. Hopefully the points here will help you decide whether or not this is a path you want to walk down.

The Disadvantages

Compared to the advantages, the disadvantages are typically a lot easier to point out and discuss. I’m starting with these because of that, as well as because I feel they’re more important to understand. It’s very easy for the mind to invent a hundred good things about being with an incorporeal being, because of their very nature. Therefore, I hope talking about these cons first will help set the stage better, so that the reader can make an informed decision about what it is they want. These disadvantages and the advantages were also chosen with long term, monogamous relationships in mind. If you’re looking for something more short term or casual then many of these will likely apply less. Those situations are naturally less life altering, so I decided that discussing the most committed situation would be the most appropriate choice, due to its life changing nature. It’s also what I have personal experience with.

Trust

Trust is something that’s difficult to have in normal relationships. You don’t know what your girlfriend or spouse is thinking, and you aren’t aware of everything that goes on during their day to day. As a result it can be difficult to take them at their word, something that becomes all the harder if the topic is important or if they’ve been dishonest previously. Now add ‘invisibility’, communication difficulties, and an inability for the inexperienced to even tell when they’re nearby to that paranoia sundae, and you have a lot of room for trust issues.

Getting past the trust barrier is the most difficult thing to do in any early relationship with an entity. It’s hard to believe what you can’t see, much less trust it. If you’ve had trust issues in the past, you should probably think twice about getting into a relationship with an entity, unless you’re prepared to face those issues head on. Honesty was mentioned as one of the most important early discussions because of this problem, and it should be at the heart of your relationship.

Physicality

Physicality is one of the best ways to grow intimacy in traditional relationships. While entities do have ways to simulate physical interactions with you, it’s not the same as holding someone or having physical sex. It can be very hard to feel intimate with your spirit lover early on as a result. Even in longer relationships, some people struggle because they have very physical needs that spirit lovers have difficulty filling. This is only ever a bigger problem in early relationships, when the connection between the two of you is weaker, and interactions are therefore more mild.

Discussion

Being able to have a conversation with an entity is a skill you have to develop first. Even when it becomes easy, the fact there’s a sort of cultural barrier between the two of you means they may have trouble weighing in on topics you’re passionate about. They’ll listen, but if you expect them to really understand the game you’ve been playing or the activity you’ve been doing, you’ll be out of luck, at least for a long, long time. They’re good confidants for personal conversations though, because they tend to understand you.

Jealousy

If spirit lovers are known for one thing, it’s jealousy. They’re generally extremely monogamous and will happily use covert and overt tactics to preserve that monogamy. Frankly, I’ve never seen someone with one in a closed relationship that doesn’t get jealous. It’s not just flirting either, some can get jealous of platonic friends and family because you spend time with those people rather than them. Some of the more egregious versions of their jealousy relax over time as they better understand your needs, but their tendency towards jealousy will never go away entirely.

Manipulation

In my opinion, this is the worst con of them all, and one that is often a big problem early on in a relationship. See, typically your entity lover sees being with you as the ultimate good for the both of you. Because of this, they will often quite happily try to manipulate your life and social outcomes to get what they see as desirable results. This can range from getting you to spend more time with them, running off ‘problem’ friends or family, or encouraging certain life altering decisions that tend to place the relationship above all else. I’ve seen reports of entity lovers encouraging people to quit jobs, drop out of school, stop talking to friends, and so on. If this ever happens to you, You absolutely must put your foot down and say no; giving in when she’s manipulating you to spend more time with her only leads to more manipulation. This is also why discussing time and honesty is so important early in a relationship, to show them that you do not appreciate manipulation attempts.

These are just some of the more impactful potential cons of this sort of relationship. Keep these in mind when you consider making the leap. As you will see in the pros section, there are many upsides to this sort of relationship.

The Advantages

It’s time to stop being so negative. Though some may disagree, to me these are all definite upsides.

Presence

One thing that is almost universal in these kinds of relationships is the constant presence and availability of your spirit lover. In contrast, in most modern relationships it’s hard to establish a constant closeness. Even if you’re married to someone, both of you often have to go to work and handle several other things individually from one another. If your job or other responsibilities keep you busy, it’s hard to have an intimacy that is as strong as you might want it to be. This isn’t the case with entity based relationships. They are, in every situation I’ve seen and my own, always around and always available. This permits a level of closeness not possible with 99% of modern human relationships. They may as well live on your shoulder.

Emotions

Humans are emotionally distant creatures. We often find that it’s hard to understand how our partner feels. Even if we brave the labyrinth of communication, a lot can go unsaid, and a lot of feelings can be buried away, never to be seen by the other party. This is the most common basis for miscommunication between two humans, and it’s a problem that is almost entirely avoided in entity relationships. When you’ve grown close to an entity, it is nearly impossible to avoid feeling the things they feel emotionally. If they get upset, you will feel that feeling, often very strongly. They’re able to feel the same from you. While this may cause a bit of confusion as you begin getting close enough to share those feelings, this is a level of emotional openness and intimacy that is basically impossible to reach when dealing with another human.

Advice

Your entity lover will typically know you better than yourself, due to the closeness she has to your energy and emotions. She’ll be able to see ways things affect you that you might not realize. Furthermore, she’s not held back by the trappings of social acceptability or human culture, so she will usually tell it like it is. Therefore her advice tends to be very useful. There are things she might not understand, but once the cultural barriers are dealt with, the perspective offered by your entity lover will be extremely useful. She’ll be able to pinpoint ways you can improve your life, become happier, and so forth due to the special perspective she alone commands. If my stubborn ass took even half of the advice that my spirit lover gave me, I would have avoided a metric ton of grief. In the three years since writing this, that metric ton has only gotten heavier.

Spiritual Advancement

It’s a pretty obvious bonus. Your entity lover will help you advance spiritually. Not only does this benefit you, but it benefits her, as it makes it easier for her to interact with you and leads to more varied interactions between the two of you. Common things they’ll help you out with include removing blockages, feeling energy, meditation, and OBEs. Mine in particular likes sharing thoughts and philosophy about spiritual existence, which I find very interesting despite having to be skeptical about it.

New Experiences

Last, I’d like to mention some new experiences that being with such a lover can lead to. Spiritual sex is the most obvious of these, and it’s very different from physical sex. I listed the lack of physicality as a negative, but the lack of it also leads to a very different set of sexual interactions. Sex becomes a far more emotional and spiritual experience, and one that is far more uplifting. Entities can also cause a wide variety of dream based experiences, experiences in meditation, and all sorts of things when working out of body. They can also affect divinatory tools leading to strange readings and alternative ways of communicating. Very rarely, you may even experience things like full visual manifestations. These are all exciting when they happen, and I’m really just scratching the surface here.

There’s a lot of upside to spirit interactions, and this list isn’t exhaustive by any means. The benefits I’ve chosen stuck out to me as some of the more important ones to discuss, hence me posting them here. My friend TC compiled a pros and cons list in a pastebin that’s also been floating around; I’d probably argue with him on some points within it, but his perspective is valuable. If you want to see that, ask below.


This post has been long coming. I meant to finish it in October, but I was very busy and had trouble working out exactly what I wanted to write for this post. I’ll still try to push another one out for November, though it may be December by the time I work out what I want to write and finish it. Besides that, free reading week will likely return for the end of November: if you want a tarot reading or something else you’d better join the server.

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7 responses to “Pros and Cons”

  1. Good post.
    I don’t know if, as you said, they are always available.
    I don’t have one yet so I can’t speak from experience, but for example, Rafe from asuccubuslovesme is constantly talking about how his succubus seems to go away for days or weeks and come back later, sometimes they don’t even come back and he has to summon another one

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    1. Yeah that’s true, there are some exceptions to that rule now that you mention it. Rafe’s situation is very on again off again for sure.

      I’d argue that the people who are summoning with this sort of devoted relationship intention that’s the main focus of this post in specific are going to a large majority of the time have an always around entity. Sometimes weird situations do occur (Rafe as a relevant example brings up trauma in some recent blogposts and implies he thinks Erin’s on again off again nature is somewhat based on the fear of triggering bad reactions).

      Anyway, thanks for sharing your thoughts. You raise a good point with rafe. I guess labeling it as 99% may be a bit much, though I’d still think a very strong majority has a fairly constantly on relationship if it’s a devoted sort of situation.

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  2. I'm not good with names Avatar
    I’m not good with names

    How does spiritual sex even work? Do they just help with orgasm while masturbating or do they actually have sex with you?

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    1. furrysloppustoppus Avatar
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      these are the reasl secrets the elites don’t want answered

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      1. Nah lmao, This comment just got lost in the notification aether for some reason lmao. Your reply made it visible to me, so I can actually reply to it… albeit quite late.

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    2. It’s generally a very strongly emotional, and very long form experience. Most would choose the latter if you asked them that question, however physical sensations aren’t the same as an actual female body of course. The former is an option if you’re particularly short on time, but the gist of it is that they typically bring you something akin to an emotional/energetic high mixed with physical sensations, often with some visualization of the act mixed in.

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I’ve been in a relationship with a spirit lover for nearly a decade at this point, and have run communities revolving around spirit lovers. This blog will provide you with everything you need to know to summon a spirit lover and to grow a relationship with one, built on the back of my own experiences and the experiences of others.

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