Eden’s Apple

Originally when I set out to make a blogpost for April, I was going to talk about Spirit Sellers. Those who know me know that I have often decried services like CreepyHollows and Eden’s Apple as scams, but I really wanted to delve into why. However, as I did research into the latter of these two specifically, it was soon clear that serious malicious behavior was unveiling itself before me. In this blogpost we’re going to take a look at Eden’s Apple and the wrongdoing associated with it.

What is Eden’s Apple?
The first page you’re met with on the website.

Eden’s Apple is an online store at EdensApple.net. Its owner, who identifies herself as Eve, promises to provide you with whatever you order from the store. She apparently offers all sorts of beings, among other, less incorporeal things. The most expensive thing I could find on the website was a ‘realm creation’, where she’d create an entire infernal realm for you for five thousand dollars. To any skeptics among you that probably sounds ludicrous, but if Eve was just delusional there’d be no need to write this blogpost. If you want to follow along with page references as we go on you can navigate to them using the site.

Speaking of Eve, how does she describe herself? She calls herself a priestess and claims she’s been a priestess for the same unnamed demon lord in every life. She expands more on her background in the about section, that she was a bit different and gifted at an early age in interacting with these beings. She claims that because of her special patron and her roots she is able to offer authentic conjuration services. The only self humbling within it is when she admits to having made mistakes in the past that have helped her grow, a statement that’s very ironic given what we’ll soon be talking about.

There is one other page we should dwell on before we dive right into the issue. The policies page, which is the page for disclaimers, provides us with some very important information. The most important two disclaimers are the last few. The statement that this is ‘for entertainment purposes only’ is a necessary statement for any service like this. What matters to us is that this statement prevents recourse. Since the purchase is for entertainment purposes only, to buy something and expect a real result would be seen as you being foolish, so long as the tangible things you purchased are actually received. Therefore you can’t run to court to try and force someone to pay you for fraud when the entity you bought happens to not exist. I don’t mind this law in regards to things like tarot or divination, because usually you’re not paying a ton of money and you at least have advice or a spread to consider. Even with spirit selling, which is generally designed around being a scam, most scammers have the decency to charge small amounts, so while it’s malicious it’s not the end of the world. However, when the prices are as high as they are on Eden’s Apple, it’s far harder to ignore.

Despite this necessary disclaimer Eve does say that she takes her work seriously and has pride in her ability to provide these entities. Despite this apparent confidence she also states all sales are final, implying that her confidence is fake or ill-founded, because she’s barred consumers from their only potential recourse when purchasing a service like this right out the gate, something she would not have to do if her ability to provide these services was convincing and consistent. You also automatically agree to all the disclaimers if you make a purchase, which is normal but also sort of shitty given this important information is buried in a section of the website you’re unlikely to see unless you’re digging through the website intentionally. It’s worth noting that, based on my friend’s experience, there’s also a 3-4 week pause between purchasing and Eve doing what you paid for, meaning cancelling charges is largely out of the question.

‘Alright’, I hear you say. ‘But if her offerings really are legitimate then none of that should be a problem, right?’ You’re correct, if she was honest we wouldn’t even be discussing this. Unfortunately for her, there’s strong evidence that she is not.

Scams of the Heart

If you’ve read me for a while, you probably wonder how I even found out about this website. I don’t like to spend time looking around the internet for things to hate on. To understand how this all happened, we have to start by discussing a good friend of mine, Chaw.

Chaw’s always had family troubles and sexual health issues. It is very hard for him to connect with other people in any intimate way, because his environment growing up was cutthroat and painful. He had also summoned a succubus several years back. His relationship with this succubus was very on and off because of those same health issues. This frustrated him, and while he was looking for solutions, he found Eve.

When he discussed it with her, Eve claimed that this entity was in reality a parasite, that this parasite was causing his sexual health issues, and that if he simply bought one of her entities his relationship issues and even health issues would soon evaporate into thin air. Chaw was taken by this promise and with the money he’d gotten from his stimulus check he purchased a succubus evocation from her for a whopping 150 dollars. 

To make a long story short, Chaw eventually got suspicious and shared the materials with me. The sigil, the biography, the bonding ritual, and companion etiquette 101, which all come with the evocation. Let’s briefly discuss the sigil. On the succubus/incubus page, the sigil of your companion is listed as a 25 dollar value. This sigil was made by taking the letters of the entity’s name (censored by request) and sigilizing them. It’s very easy to tell this because this sigil is exceptionally elementary. If you can easily pick out every single letter of the name within the sigil, as you can here, it’s a poorly made sigil.

That by itself isn’t evidence of a scam, just laziness or ineptitude. The biography is when things get juicy. When I went in to examine the biography, the file for which I will provide in The Server for anyone who asks (I have to do it that way because it contains NSFW content), and which has not been adjusted, I noticed that the first instance of the name in the body of the document (literally the first word) was misspelled. If we know the author easily misspells things and isn’t trying very hard to proofread, but the rest of the document aside from the names is mostly fine, it’s a sign that the author could be substituting the name into large groups of prepared text. So I set to work, and what I found was far more conclusive than I expected.

In the picture (since removed by request) we have an excerpt from the biography. In this section they’re talking about how the entity is apparently adept at energy work. If you read closely, however, you’ll see halfway through that another name, Alavant, is used instead of (the original name). Who is Alavant? they weren’t mentioned to my friend, nor had any of us ever heard the name before.

Judging by the context, it’s another fake entity that some other person must have purchased. It seems Eve simply opened up that biography and started copy pasting large segments from it (if not just the whole thing), and replaced every instance of ‘Alavant’ with the other name. Unfortunately for her, she missed one, proving without doubt that she intentionally reused large amounts of text to create a fake biography for my friend. She may have changed a few words out to make it ‘original’ or to make it more appropriate for my friend, but make no mistake that large amounts of this ‘completely original’ and ‘in depth’ biography were simply copy pasted from another biography.

As a side note there is a biography for a specific ‘pre conjured’ incubus on the website. The writing for his biography is very similar to his overall. I have an archive and screenshot of it in case it is later taken down, though like the biography, I can’t show it here because it is NSFW. As you might expect it’s not exactly the same, but is largely similar.

There’s no need to delve into the other documents, as they’re supposed to be the same and aren’t specific to Chaw’s purchase. They are also valued far above what the actual lazy material within them warrants, but I digress.

Illegal Activity

You didn’t think we were done there, did you? Scamming Chaw is bad enough, but in our research we also discovered what seems to be stolen art on the website. Here’s what I was able to find the original sources for. There’s no way this use of this art would be protected under Fair Use. The owner also seemed to do some work to hide the fact they took the art from alternative sources in some cases, implying that these aren’t being used with permission.

That pentagram from the very first photo in this blogpost, that’s splayed on their homepage? Straight out of one of the Doom games. It’s the same pentagram, recolored a bit. The original, courtesy of the wiki, is below.

It took Atticus 2 seconds to recognize this one.

Next we have one from Michelle Hoefener, an artist that I was not aware of until I did this research, but who has apparently done a lot of work for a lot of different companies, and runs a patreon besides. They took their Succubus Iris picture and mirrored it, using the result as their photo for their Fa and Fe entry. You can even still see the watermark, but it’s very difficult to read.

Next we get Joseph Vargo’s Cthulu work, which is also splayed on the homepage. Again, the copyright is sitting there right in the corner, clear to see.

Next, let’s talk about E again. You can tell just by looking at the entry for E that a shitty crop job was done. Turns out it was stolen from a video game called Gems of War and cropped right out of a card. Looking at their copyright policies, it’s clear that this isn’t a legal use of their artwork.

There was one other example I found with an obvious watermark. A friend of mine did eventually find the source at This Page. The original version was apparently made for a specific game called Chronicles of Blood, with a slightly different version on the page.

If you see this and have some time, let the artists know about this use of their art, so they can weigh in. If you recognize any of the rest of the art on the website that could be stolen, please let those artists know as well if possible. Make sure to spread the word too, so that people are aware this is going on. It is reasonable to expect they’d steal more art than just this, if they were willing to steal this much to begin with. If it is, somehow, not stolen, and the artist weighs in saying they gave permission, we could also correct the record. This is impossible for several of these entries, however, since they were made for video games and are owned by companies that would not be interested in letting them be used in this fashion.

Conclusion

There are few things I abhor more than taking advantage of desperate people. Doing it to one of my best friends, and in such a blatant way, greatly elevates the injury. I wish I could do more for Chaw, but when all is said and done, he’ll be the one left standing. In any case, I couldn’t not post this, because it would not be just to allow other people to be taken advantage of by this abhorrent woman.

I’m hoping that I can at least get the word out and enact some justice where I can. If you guys want to help, then sharing this blogpost with people you think would buy or have bought from the website, or just people in general, would be useful. Also as stated earlier, if you recognize any of the other art on the website as copywritten work then please notify the artist they took it from so they can handle it. It would also be helpful for more of us to contact the artists and companies that are already listed so they can weigh in or get their art taken down from the store. Most of the relevant pages are archived so the evidence isn’t going anywhere.

With all that said, thanks for sticking with me. This is a topic I’m very passionate about, and I know it’s easy not to care about some random shop taking advantage of someone or stealing art. I personally believe that these people really sully the occult and occult communities when they act in this manner. The occult has long been associated with scam artists, and I feel like writing this is my little attempt at trying to clean up some of the gunk in our communities.


We did manage to slide in before the end of April. It took a lot of prep to get this and everything else in order. I was going to write a broader blogpost on the subject at first, but changed it as the situation came to light. Next month my brother is getting married, which is exciting. Other than that things are more or less the same around here.

I’d like to get back to covering something normal next month. If you’ve got any ideas for what you’d like to see, let me know below. After that double helping of journalism, putting out a nice, dry, and boring post will be a return to form.

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2 responses to “Eden’s Apple”

  1. […] bring harm on you.Should I use spirit sellers?No. They’re scams. One was documented as such Here. The others aren’t any better, they’re just lucky enough they weren’t the ones […]

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  2. […] they used within that little space between the inner and outer circle. The elementary sigil in the Eden’s Apple post is one such example. The alternative is to use a sort of pattern/magic square. These usually […]

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