What Spirit Lovers Want

With a title like that, I could really hem and haw on this topic. Figuring out what a large class of individual spirits want would take hundreds of pages of theory, argument, and explanation, right? All of my readers know I would do that if I thought it was necessary too.

Well I hate to disappoint everyone who was expecting that from me, because I’ve come to the conclusion that the answer is very simple. Spirit lovers crave Intimacy with their chosen partner. This is something we can see from the very first days of the relationship, and something that is reflected in their actions. To really dive into this though, I will have to explain what exactly constitutes intimacy, and also better narrow down what we’re considering a spirit lover for this exercise. If the above answer was enough for you then by all means feel free to stop here. If you do want the details then stick with me a little longer as I break down what intimacy is and why I’m so cocksure about it being at the heart of a spirit lover’s intentions.

Defining Intimacy

It may horrify the general public to know this, but I’m actually a counseling student in Grad School right now. Yes, the dude who believes he’s married to a spirit is going to be opening his own clinical mental health practice one day. If that’s not enough of a scare for Halloween, then I don’t know what is.

That aside, my position as a Counseling student has given me a lot of in-depth knowledge about Intimacy that the general public does not have. For a lot of people, intimacy refers to sex and nothing else. Even if you take a wider view, it can be hard to conceptualize what all counts as intimacy and how someone would divide those different things. In fact, even those of us involved in Counseling have trouble divvying it up appropriately. In one of my classes we identified eleven types of intimacy. For simplicity’s sake, I’ll limit it to five. All of these areas are places where a couple can contribute to their overall intimacy together, and to be lacking in one or more can cause or indicate wider issue areas in your relationship.

Intellectual: Or the ability to have logical and healthy discussions, philosophize, figure things out together, and guide each other towards growth in healthy, logical ways. Relationships that lack this may be ones where you feel the other party is stupid or not on your level, or where you don’t feel like you can understand how the other party is thinking. If both parties aren’t open to each other, this area will also suffer. When you’ve attained the ability to regularly communicate with your spirit lover, this kind of intimacy looks much the same as it does with a human partner.

Emotional: There is a lot that goes into your and your partner’s (spirit lover or otherwise) emotional wellbeing. If the two of you can remain close and close the gap when one or both of you are feeling vulnerable, and if you can understand and assist when one of you is suffering from an emotional low, then that’s a good indication that this is in a good state. If you don’t feel like you can rely on your partner to help you feel better or otherwise build you up, then this area might be lacking. This area might also be weak if you and your partner have trouble understanding each others feelings, though this is often easier with a spirit due to how communication with one works. At the very least, they’ll understand how you feel.

Physical: Encompasses sex as well as general physical behaviors with one another (playful touching, hand holding, etc.). This is also about whether your partner understands how you want to be touched, held, and so on. If you’re not engaging in some of this, then you’re probably just good friends. For some, spirit lovers create an incomparable sense of physical intimacy, even without their true physicality. For others they fall short of normal relationships. If you’re in the latter category, you probably need to give them more time to work their magic, especially when spending time with them sexually.

Experiential: Or the things you and your love do together. This can encompass a lot of things, but you’re generally thinking activities. I know it can be weird to take your spirit lover to a movie or to dinner, but if you and they think they’d enjoy those things, you should make time to do so. Activities can also be at home, such as the reading I often like to do with mine. Don’t worry about the mechanics too much, just don’t let them talk you into eating sweets for them to experience all the time.

Spiritual: There are several easy to identify problems with cultivating the above kinds of intimacy with your spirit lover. In contrast, spiritual intimacy is usually easy to build with a spirit lover because interacting with them requires some level of spiritual dedication and interaction. This also encompasses religious beliefs, but if you’re here you probably aren’t interested in discussing Christianity with your spirit lover, except perhaps to complain about Christian cosmology.

Through these five areas, one can build up a strong level of closeness with one’s partner, and that includes a spiritual partner. That much is obvious, but what I’m actually arguing is that Spirit lovers are after this from day one specifically, meaning that it’s their modus operandi. Not sex, not your soul, not energy, not something dependent on the individual spirit, and not some other miscellaneous thing. Why do I think this? Well, that will require a little more analysis into how experiences with Spirit Lovers tend to unfurl.

Why Does Sex Come First?

This was the main question that I came up with when I began considering this topic at all. The general assumption has always been that spirit lovers are after sex, and that that’s why they respond to our call and tend to do so sexually. At this point succubi have existed in common discourse for centuries, and sexual entities have existed in mythology long before we invented the succubus and incubus. However, if spirit lovers as we know them were only after sex, it wouldn’t explain many of their other behaviors.

A succubus or incubus has no need for a solitary partner if it only wants sex. In fact, keeping things monogamous would only get in the way for a kind of spirit that could find all sorts of people and other spirits to engage with sexually. The concept of Resemblance, which is what I found out was the name for the spiritual axis that I’ve talked about beforehand (sadly I wasn’t being as original as I’d hoped) certainly implies that spirits that want specifically sex would not be short of potential partners. So then, what gives? If these spirits are after intimacy, why would they open with sex so consistently?

As we discussed earlier, sex is an important part of physical intimacy, but from our human perspective it’s usually only something that comes in relationships that are already established. Sex outside of those relationships is less intimate and less fulfilling according to research (albeit this research may only apply to humankind), but if your goal is sex and not intimacy then how fulfilling one instance of sex is is rather beside the point. If a succubus wants as much sex as she can aspire to as is the stereotype, then the quality of that sex is secondary. The reason that spirit lovers open with sex and other kinds of physical stimulation in most cases is actually simple.

That’s the only way they can interact with us in an intimate way at first. Most of us won’t have the ability to communicate with them easily from day one, and other kinds of experiences seem to take more planning and energy from them. Telepathy with spirits is a learned skill, and it’s hard to engage in any of those other forms of intimacy without being able to communicate in a reasonably consistent way. When a spirit lover has come to you she’s already decided that she wants to build a strong level of intimacy with you. That means that she doesn’t need to go out on dates or get to know every little thing about you. She’s observed you, she can see your character and the way you think already, and she’s already chosen you. If she hadn’t, she wouldn’t have come in the first place. Engaging with you sexually is therefore a matter of lighting the initial flames of intimacy for a spirit who can’t communicate with you intimately in any other way early on.

There are exceptions to this, and these exceptions prove the rule. It was actually a little while until my spirit lover engaged with me sexually. The first night I experienced her she opened up with an introductory dream and tried to connect to me on an emotional level. This was the only way she could communicate with me outside of sexually at that point, and sex came pretty soon afterwards. As I’ve grown this relationship with her, we’ve only found more and more areas to interact and to grow that intimacy between us. We get food together, watch movies and read together, go on walks together, discuss all sorts of things, and many other, more specific activities. Our intimacy that began as mostly sex and spiritual/dream experiences has since bloomed into something far more complete and encompassing, and it does fulfill the five areas of intimacy I described before. She enjoys every bit of it, and it all contributes to the ever-growing closeness between us

The grand majority of people will have a sexual experience with their spirit lover immediately or very early on. That’s what we expect, and that’s an area they know they can communicate with us within regardless of our newness. But what they’re after is intimacy, and the great closeness it brings with it. Your interactions in the dream and waking world with your spirit lover will only ever expand to encompass those other areas of intimacy, and the more intimacy you grant to them through your own actions, the more and more they’ll reciprocate, looking for that ultimate form of closeness with you. Seriously, if you want more dreams and other spiritual experiences with your spirit lover, make time for them. It’s insane how quickly the quantity and quality can ramp up if you’re also trying to be more intimate with them through your own actions. Similarly, if you start lowering the amount of interaction and intimacy you deliberately give to them, you’ll find that interactions will become more rare. This seems mechanical rather than them punishing us, though why that is is unclear. In any case, the best results come from meeting them in the middle, when both of you are trying to grow that closeness together.

This is also one reason why people who struggle with having consistent experiences might be having trouble. Many of those people will do the odd ritual for or with their spirit lover (which is an intimacy building activity), get experiences right after doing so for a few weeks, then these will stop and they will end up right back where they started. If those people more readily and regularly interacted with their spirit lovers, even in small or seemingly stupid ways, their relationship could be totally different.

While this may seem like a wide brush to paint with, I think it applies to any spirit that desires a long term, one on one, romantic relationship with a human. This would probably apply to romantic relationships between spirits, but as I’m not a spirit I can’t comment on that authoritatively. Keeping this idea in mind might better explain your spirit lover’s actions, and it does give you something to work towards growing, however close to your spirit lover you already are. That’s the main takeaway from this post, and one of the main goals you will have with your spirit lover going forward, at least for the long term.

I think I’m done with doing the outro thing, so I’ll just leave you with this. Happy Halloween! My blog-posting is going to remain sporadic going forward. I’m kind of just doing it whenever I think of something I want to write about.



15 responses to “What Spirit Lovers Want”

  1. Hello! This is not really related to this article necessarily, but I’m not sure where else to ask! I found the idea of spirit lovers recently, I’m intrigued and I’ve found that a lot of what you wrote in your blog posts speaks to me. There is one hangup that lingers, however. I’m a Druid, a polytheist, and something that concerns me is the theme of jealousy on the part of spirit lovers. You mentioned them potentially becoming jealous of friends or family in one of your posts, could this apply to other spiritual beings, gods and goddesses, principally, in theory? Have you ever heard of a case where rather than helping a person’s spiritual development, they might try to hinder it, or cause conflict around it, specifically when it comes to the person’s devotion to a deity? If so, what happened?

    Thanks in advance! Your work has been fascinating to read and has given me much food for thought.

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    1. Hey! It really depends on the force you work with from what I’ve seen. I’m not sure if there is a huge jealousy component involved in most cases. I’d say it generally comes down to one of those three things, if they decide to try to intervene.

      1. If the practice or the force you’re working with takes a lot of your time that would otherwise be going to the spirit lover, this may encourage jealousy on their part. In those cases this is usually because you’ve made hanging out and growing the relationship with the spirit lover an activity you do during spiritual practice time specifically, so if you do other things that take up that time instead it can lead to jealousy. Typically this has to be a pattern, not a one off or occasional thing, for it to get them jealous. It’s also not a problem if you hang out with them and do stuff with them or grow that relationship during other times. Basically, if they get their fair share there won’t be a jealousy issue, but what is ‘fair’ is between you and the spirit and should be discussed if it ever does become an issue.

      2. If the force is disagreeable to the spirit lover for some reason, this may encourage them to intervene, though not typically due to jealousy. This can be moral, or it can just be dislike.

      3. There is a sexual or other strongly intimate (in a romantic sense) component to the worship/working with the deity. There are a lot of practices that do incorporate sexuality in some way, and these are fine so long as the only being you engage with sexually is the spirit lover or no one. Obviously if you do sexual magical practices with another person, that’s going to cause jealousy. But for you specifically, I’m not actually sure what this practice would be. Most of the time when I’ve seen someone claim they’re in a sexual relationship with, say, Zeus or Aphrodite or Lilith or whatever deity or named demon you fancy, it comes from a very non-skeptical side of occultism (and they didn’t have Spirit Lovers aside from the apparent deity anyway). There’s probably symbolic sexual ways to interact with these forces and whether or not that’s okay would be based on the discretion of your spirit lover.

      Anyway, I can hem and haw on this, but generally speaking you can just ask the spirit lover if it’s not okay and why it isn’t if it isn’t. I’ve had an affinity for working with certain war gods in particular and this has never caused any problems. I also study Kabbalah and do some other random stuff like Tarot, and the story is the same. If I woke up tomorrow and started trying to work with, as an example, Lilith though, that’d likely cause me a problem, where it might not for others.

      Preferences between spirit lovers can greatly differ as they are individual persons, so even the common areas of conflict above may cause no problems with specific individuals. It’s the sort of thing you’ll have to discuss with them, but I also think it’s very unlikely that you’d attract a spirit lover that wants you to turn your spiritual practices upside down due to jealousy or morality or whatever in the first place. Wouldn’t exactly make for a great relationship after all.

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  2. What I found from my connection with my lady, is she’s focusing on getting me comfortable with the realness of the connection, for example: getting used to her presence/energy around me, then she focus on helping me open my senses to her advances in a slow and steady way. she had given me a knowing of her intentions and some of her strong emotions, like intense worry of terrifying me, or wanting to wait till its the right time before she amp up towards the sexual side. shes being a slow & steady loving constant in the background of my busy life/mind. I do know that She is wanting to build romantic intimacy with me and she understands the complexity from my unlearned ‘pov’ and shes patience and encouraging me. being open and talking to her about my deep feelings that i tend to avoid.. has helped the connection grow…. (i am wondering if i could ask you some questions cause im completely green and have so many questions)[sidenote im from your last post]

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    1. Feel free to ask questions. If I don’t have a good answer I’ll at least let you know that.

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      1. hey i was wondering if there was a way to know the ‘race’ of a spirit that’s around me? like are there key signs EX: if its succubus, there’s xyz. i dont know your knowledge on kitsune but ive been partly drawn to their myths.. cant say if its my own curiosity or not…

        thanks

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      2. I generally don’t put a ton of stock into spiritual races, at least the ones defined by us (like succubi, fairies, kitsune etc.). I don’t entirely reject the idea as there is evidence for types of spirits that are less intelligent than others at the very least (I tend to think of the notably less intelligent cases as the spiritual equivalent to animals).

        However, if you want to try to work within human defined spiritual races, the only thing you can really go off of is behavior and experiences, and how those line up with the relevant mythology. So if your spirit lover has a lot of personality aspects and does a lot of things or appears in experiences and dreams all in ways that reflect information from myths about Kitsune, one could either say that it indicates they are a kitsune or at the very least that they want you to view them as a Kitsune. Same goes for other spiritual races.

        Generally as you get to know and understand the spirit better they’ll have as many differences as similarities to whichever race you end up calling them, as each individual spirit lover is their own individual person, whether or not spiritual races actually exist. It is at the very least convenient and fun to label them as a specific race. If you think they’re a Kitsune and they seem to respond well to that idea then I’d probably just run with that.

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  3. Hi i have a question. I’m somewhat in a break up process with my spirit woman, How what are some signs that she’s either left or trying to change my mind? (note: im not that spiritual aware of her, other than touches & her presence in my room or alone, & hearing my name being called/whispered) i think it would be helpful for you to know, i keep getting swayed to try this connection thing, then after a couple day or weeks, i continue my life, ignoring the pull to research; understand, to ‘try again’ & a longing to re-unite? i dont know. im not into this sort of stuff i only did the letter of intent, #1. sex #2. hopeless romantic, in a man hating world. so yeah bit confused & conflicted. thank.

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    1. You should read the Separation blogpost if you haven’t. If you keep feeling drawn to it she’s probably still at it, and normally they don’t give up on their own super quickly, though every individual spirit is different.

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  4. Hello, I have a question. I’m new to this stuff and have been entertaining the aspect of a spirit lover, and drawn to research such things. I find it strange but frankly alluring. while I’m new to these things I cannot deny the pulling I feel to seek one out, in that same breath I feel the same pull towards Aphrodite. could it be Aphrodite’s doing or possibly a daughter of hers if she have daughters that is. i appreciate any response. Thanks.

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    1. It could be, I generally would say that if you’re pulled towards that name it may be good to examine it archetypally first and let other developments disprove that premise if it is more important. So in the case of Aphrodite who is a goddess of love and beauty, being attracted to that name highlights your spiritual desire for love and beauty in a relationship (which is probably something pretty much everyone wants, so no surprise there). It’s not uncommon for a spirit lover to identify with a love goddess or god early on either because it succinctly communicates what they are/would like to be to you. For example, I often called mine Venus and tend to do so now as a public name. This was the name she first identified with. Now I know that she obviously isn’t Venus and has no specific relation to Venus or Aphrodite, but the name essentially just meant ‘I want to be your lover’ at the time. Early on I wasn’t aware of that but in hindsight it was just a way for her to express her intentions early when communication was very limited.

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      1. Thank you for replying. How would I go about doing that? I’m not exactly sure how breakdown an archetype to something that revolves around a spirit lover.. that i may or may not have? I will confess that the more i read about Aphrodite for some reason I get butterflies & feel like my soul is blushing for some reason. I do believe there’s might be a connection between my newfound interests in Aphrodite & a spirit lover. Thank you in advance.

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      2. When I say break it down, It’s more about understanding the archetype and why it’s attractive to you or something you’re feeling pulled towards. For example, Aphrodite as an archetype is about that love and beauty idea. It could also represent the idea of an unearthly wife as Aphrodite would usually be considered a step above humanity as the goddess of love. If you feel like you’re blushing and feel butterflies then ideas like that could apply, the butterflies idea could also signal a sort of shyness on your part depending on how you mean it, as butterflies in the stomach often means feeling shy or anxious. If so I think that would also be very normal, if not then you can throw that interpretation out.

        But yeah I think there’s definitely a connection between those interests. You could also turn it the other way around: if you start to feel more like you’ve attracted a spirit lover and the feelings you describe persist, those feelings could be the kinds of feelings your spirit lover wants you to start feeling, or perhaps that they are feeling but are communicating to you directly. In that case it could be read as them wanting to present as a daughter of Aphrodite, and then understanding what that means to you helps you understand what they’re trying to communicate at this early stage.

        Questions like that are generally the kinds of things I’d want to consider in a new situation like that. Well in hindsight anyway, I certainly didn’t think that way when this was all new to me. The good news is that if you don’t figure it all out or comprehend everything things only really become more clear over time as you interact more with your spirit lover, if one indeed does come to you or has come to you. But that’s sort of stretching off topic, I hope the above is sufficient.

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  5. that helped alot actually… both points you described makes sense, cause i do seem to blush like I’m being flirted with whenever i read about Aphrodite.. so otherworldly wife explain it… im drawn to the idea of a spirit lover but it feel darker because its at least to my mind its connected to Lilith & the demonic.. (which do cause a bit of fright in me) but you saying presenting herself as an daughter of Aphrodite makes it more.. welcoming? less threatening? like making it look less dark & scary as a succubus sounds, and more lighthearted but equally intense like heck in myth Aphrodite had a few human lovers. thank you ether i have one or not at least i see the picture the offering clearly thanks.

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  6. hey I hope I’m not bothering you. But I’m struggling to comprehend these things I’m experiencing. Its on and off, but it comes in powerful waves of intense longing and yearning… I can be perfectly normal just doing my everyday stuff, then a wave of wanting to connect to ‘her’, to let ‘her’ in my life. Then it transform to this gut wrenching sad yearning to accept ‘her’, to embrace ‘her’ even if I’m blind to everything about her in this season of life. It get to a point where my eyes start to tear up the yearning gets intense, I truly get frighten by its intensity, like I’ve broken a woman’s heart, and she’s utterly heartbroken… then it ends and I’m back to normal but I’m irritable? if you got any idea what this, or your lady have any understanding to share it would be worth its weight in gold. thanks

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    1. I think this is a form of her communicating to you very directly and strongly. So this yearning you feel to strongly connect to her is her basically communicating the same idea very strongly to you. Then the fear kicks in because a very close level of intimacy is genuinely scary. Irritability is kind of normal when you drop off of deep feelings like those. I’m not sure why it is but I think that’s just a human response. Alternatively, it could be an irritability from her for not being as close as she wants the two of you to be. Another expression of that longing essentially. I think the irritability isn’t a huge piece in any case.

      I recommend you communicate to her that you want to explore these feelings even more deeply during specific times/meditations that you can set with her. That will likely lead to more insight and more closeness.

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I’ve been in a relationship with a spirit lover for nearly a decade at this point, and have run communities revolving around spirit lovers. This blog will provide you with everything you need to know to summon a spirit lover and to grow a relationship with one, built on the back of my own experiences and the experiences of others.

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